Thursday, January 27, 2005

Emergent Theodicy

Been dialoging with Jake about where emerging theodicy might be headed. Been enjoying the conversation. For those interested in theodicy, you might want to check it out.


David Nebraska said...


CrnbrdEater said...

For those not familiar with theodicy and here.
Without knowledge of the name for theodicy, this is something I have been thinking about quite a bit over the last few years. My brother-in-law introduced me to the idea God created Adam and Eve knowing they would sin. Out of the infinite number of possible universes He could create God created one that was sure to turn against Him.

I think my initial feelings to this idea were akin to an atheist contemplating the origins of matter. All my worldviews seemed to work okay on the surface but once I started digging deep enough they did not hold up. How could God knowingly choose to allow a sin prone world to exist? While this has obviously been the question of the ages, it was new to me.

Personally I have come to the position if we accept the Bible at face value, that God is omniscient and omnipotent, and that nature (humanity specifically) was created to bring God glory then it has to follow that God created our world in such as way that it maximized His own glory.

This seems wrong on so many levels. Fortunately, like you said in Yahweh - God of Genocide, we can’t define God’s morality by human morality. God defines our boundaries -- not us His. Because we can't understand something does not negate its truth.

Jake said...

Gerald, thanks for the plug. I very much enjoy working with your brother. I'm chompin' at the bit to read your justification for why you are an inerrantist. We could use a good thinker like you on the moderate side of the spectrum ;) Peace.

the forester said...

This is a response to CrnbrdEater:

You've addressed the question, "How could God knowingly choose to allow a sin prone world to exist?" I wrote a short piece that spills a few sideways thoughts onto this question as it attempts to address another: "Why is faith the sole qualifier for God's acceptance?"

I'm no theologian. But I'd be honored to hear your perspective on my piece (and yours too, Gerald, and anyone else reading). It's called "Dust You Are" and is at

Jake said...

Gerald, I stumbled across this and thought of you. It looks like there is an emergent cohort in your area that you may want to get involved with. Peace.